My father wants to get a brand new car in the next 2 months. Any suggestions?

"RotaryLover" (rotarylover) 03/16/2014 at 19:48 • Filed to: None

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The Mazda 3...is not mine. My father paid it so that I get a reliable dd for school/work and to pay much much less on insurance. I only pay the maintenance, the license plate and the insurance. There, the truth is out, I'm a spoiled rich kid.Now back to the subject.

My father wants to trade in the Mazda 3 '10 and his Altima '08 to get a brand new luxury (or luxury looking) car for about 500$ per month, now that I got my reliable car. My mother wishes that the car isn't long like the Altima but has almost the same space inside as the Altima. It's gonna happen in the next 2 months since he's gonna retire. Keep in mind that the car needs to be automatic, and no crazy hoon machines. He want a car that would represent his age...like a Volvo or maybe a Cadillac. He loves Nissans so far...and hates korean car with passion. The car needs to be reliable and fuel efficient. Any suggestions Oppo?

jkm7680 > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 19:52

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Oh man, you are lucky. When in doubt, Audi A4, or he could get a Maxima, or whatever the hell those thingies are called.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 19:54

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Regal GS AWD?

Fully loaded for $566 a month before trade-ins. Badge represents an older demographic, but the car would still be nice to drive. He could get a lower trim level if he doesn't want all the racer-bits on the exterior.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 19:55

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ATS

Trevor Mohr > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 19:55

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My recommendation would have to be a Volkswagen CC. You can get one of the higher trim levels too. However, the "base" model CC Sport still comes with leather, dual-zone climate, Sat-Nav, etc..

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 19:59

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Nibby > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:00

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Saw an ad for leasing a new 2014 Audi A6 for $500 a month with only $999 down.

Also, you can probably get an A4 for that money too. Or a Lexus IS, unless that's too small. The Toyota Avalon is a pretty decent car, much better than it ever was now.

I'd also look at... Ford Fusion. A loaded Titanium should definitely be under $500 a month too.

heliochrome85 > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 03/16/2014 at 20:07

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Solid choice. I'd say 3 series, but everyone knows not to own them outside of the warranty.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > heliochrome85 03/16/2014 at 20:09

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I'm just not a fan of the current 3.

heliochrome85 > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 03/16/2014 at 20:10

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Its ok. Ive had my 2014 for a couple months now, and it still makes my fun bits tingle.

puddler > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:11

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you said he's retiring, he's not dead.

Tom McParland > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:12

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500/Mo with what kind of down payment?

Quick pick Buick Verano...now hear me out. They are comfy, but spacious, fuel efficient but plenty of luxury features and can be had well equipped for low 30's.

Tell him to drop me a line if he would like any assistance.

Automatchconsulting @ gmail.com

Yossarian > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:16

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500/month for a lease or finance?

Lexus is offering insane lease deals right now. 425/month 2k drive off on a GS350 F sport in my area.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/16/2014 at 20:20

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Yes so much this, test driven them and they're more B7 Passat then the B7 Passat if that makes any sense...

RotaryLover > jkm7680 03/16/2014 at 20:20

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He doesn't want a Audi since one of the neighbor has one and he's scared of the maintenance. Maxima...is too long.

All Motor Is Best Motor > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:21

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WTH is up with this length requirement?

RotaryLover > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 03/16/2014 at 20:21

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He likes it so far!

jkm7680 > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:21

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Oh, How about a Passat, Cc or Jetta? Maintenance is a pain in the ass though.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 03/16/2014 at 20:21

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What you're saying is, it feels German, but doesn't have German (un)reliability.

RotaryLover > All Motor Is Best Motor 03/16/2014 at 20:22

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Let's just say that having 2 cars in a tempo when one of them is really long...really sucks during winter.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/16/2014 at 20:24

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Yeah but more, I think it feels more like what German used to be. Slimmer and less boaty.

RotaryLover > jkm7680 03/16/2014 at 20:24

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Another neighbor has a CC, he hates it and all the vw products. He had an accident with his Bug back in his youth. Never again he would consider a VW.

RotaryLover > Yossarian 03/16/2014 at 20:25

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That would be finance. He doesn't like Lexus. Too extreme for his taste.

RotaryLover > puddler 03/16/2014 at 20:26

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What about winter braw?

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:26

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So wait your parents got you a mazda 3 to DD and you have a metal head girlfriend who probably likes arctic monkeys I want your life

jkm7680 > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:27

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Oh man. I don't see why he hates it, the Cc is a perfectly good car.

RotaryLover > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic 03/16/2014 at 20:27

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She's not my gf. YET!

RotaryLover > jkm7680 03/16/2014 at 20:29

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I know. But he hates the lines and the brand because of the accident...he's a difficult guy lol.

jkm7680 > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:30

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Haha. Sometimes you've got to let things go. It wasn't the Beetles fault that he got in an accident. I don't look at Vw/Audi any different after my accident.

RotaryLover > Nibby 03/16/2014 at 20:30

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He likes the Ford Fusion! He wanted a car that you don't see everyday. That might be it, especially at the price.

All Motor Is Best Motor > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:30

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If he doesn't want an Audi because of maintenance, VW, BMW, and Mercedes are out. And you aren't going to find much of anything that's a "status car" that's smaller than the Altima. Wanting anything that's smaller than the Altima while offering the same interior room is kind of like wanting a TARDIS. Audi's offer some of the best interior space for the length because of the way they cram the engine right in the front of the engine bay. Is the Cadillac ATS shorter than an Altima? Your parents would probably have nightmares dealing with the Cue touch system, though. No real buttons and the touch sensitive crap they're using instead is really finicky and awful. I really cannot think of anything that's shorter than an Altima and would be a "status car" while not being German or Korean. The infiniti's offer decent interior space, I think. I just sat in a few at the auto show yesterday. He might want to look at the G37, which won't be around for that much longer.

RotaryLover > jkm7680 03/16/2014 at 20:33

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That's what I told him. He has the old old old mentality dead set. You would give him a brand new full equiped top of the line Hyundai and he would puke his life in it...I think they are good for the value...

RotaryLover > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/16/2014 at 20:34

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He hates the brand...:(

RotaryLover > Trevor Mohr 03/16/2014 at 20:35

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The neighbor has one and he hates it, along with the vw products. :(

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:36

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I'd say the Impala but it's bigger and longer..

RotaryLover > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS 03/16/2014 at 20:37

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That was his no.1 choice before I wrote this! How's the maintenance on these?

jkm7680 > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:37

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Same with my father. He was set on Awd. Nothing but it.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:39

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What are you waiting for ask her out and what will you drive when your parents sell the mazda

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:39

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I'm not sure of the maintenance but I can't think of any reason why it would be overly bad.

RotaryLover > All Motor Is Best Motor 03/16/2014 at 20:40

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He likes the ATS so far and the price seems right. I've never considered the Infiniti G37. I'll tell him right away.

RotaryLover > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic 03/16/2014 at 20:42

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She lives in Ontario. I live in Montreal...2h long trip to see her...meh. I would be driving my MX5 2008.

seoultrain > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:44

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Cadillac CTS. End of discussion.

It's a $539/month lease with only $1500 due at signing. Those trades will go a long way towards paying off the car once the lease is up (I'd sell them separately and hold on to the cash). Not the most fuel efficient, but definitely more efficient than you'd think.

RotaryLover > seoultrain 03/16/2014 at 20:47

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Thats the issue, leasing. He wants to buy the car.

miniscus > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:47

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CTS-V is probably a little expensive, but I see that as a gentleman's sport/luxury car

theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:48

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What kind of wheels are those?

RotaryLover > miniscus 03/16/2014 at 20:48

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Probably too much power for him hahaha!

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:49

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We have a 12 S60 and it has been fine. Nothing scary at all. The only issues we had were a busted hood latch which got fixed for free under warranty. It is so comfy AMD looks great.

Straightsix9904 > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:49

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I'm going to get flamed to hell but I think this has to go out there. If your dad wants a super comfortable quiet car, he should look at the Lexus ES. My parents just got one to drive to FL in. It is a boring car for me to take through the turns, but man is it comfortable. it is eerily quiet not he inside and the highway miles tick by like nothing.

RotaryLover > theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil 03/16/2014 at 20:50

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I don't even know...I found the pic on google randomly. Let me search!

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:50

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You have a miata too I have a solution go 120 mph it will probably cut the drive time in half just don't get caught by the police also you two could meet half way

RotaryLover > Straightsix9904 03/16/2014 at 20:53

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Hahahaha don't worry about getting flamed. I suggested it, but he doesn't like lexus at all.

RotaryLover > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 03/16/2014 at 20:54

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Thanks for the input! Maybe we have a default winner.

seoultrain > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:56

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Ah, okay. So we're talking a $500/month payment with the trade-ins? The combined KBB values for those trades comes in at about $21k. A CTS at about $50k will be about $29k after trade, and at their current promotion of 1.9%, that comes in at almost exactly $500/month when financing for 60 months. Taxes will add a bit, if you're in a sales tax state.

At the least, have him go test drive one to see if he likes it.

RotaryLover > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic 03/16/2014 at 20:56

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True that...I'll invite her to the Rockfest of this year near my town. If she comes, I'll be the happiest guy ever!

deekster_caddy > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:58

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They have changed a lot. Worth a test drive at least, even if he 'hates it'.
We love our Passat Wagon but its an 08, if they still made this I would buy it again.

RotaryLover > seoultrain 03/16/2014 at 20:58

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We will, definitely will. He said he has a week off and will test drive multiple cars from Acura, Volvo, Cadillac, Nissan and Ford.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 20:59

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Hope it works out for you

RotaryLover > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/16/2014 at 21:00

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I suggested that too...but yeah, too big.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:00

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Make sure he gets it in brown.

Arben72 > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:00

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Does he care if it's a drivers car, if not 328d. Started no problem left outside in -20* weather. Got over 45 mpg, but I hated it's steering. It held drifts really good though. If he can wait the new c class is coming out and they look really nice.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:01

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What about Malibu, size of the Buick but isn't one.

bobkustofawitshz > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:02

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Given his affinity toward reliability and FWD Japanese cars, I'd say your father is the direct target demographic for the Lexus ES.

Although personally, I'd consider both of the following

Now both of those violate the long car is looong argument (I fucking love long cars) but both are plenty luxurious, pretty reliable (I think?), American-made, get decent fuel economy (20/30 CTS & 19/31 300) and I think fit the image he's looking for.
Having somewhat recently spent a week with a rental-spec 300 with the Pentastar 3.6, I was quite content with it. So much so that I'd like to drive the AWD & V8 models as well under consideration for future purchase.

RotaryLover > Arben72 03/16/2014 at 21:03

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He's not a "driver", more like a point A to B driver + show off. We don't have diesel BMWs here in canada...unless I was uninformed. Benzs...Hum....I wonder if he could afford the maintenance.

RotaryLover > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/16/2014 at 21:05

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Too bland. He wants to show off with a car that you don't see everyday.

RotaryLover > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic 03/16/2014 at 21:06

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Thanks man!...if not...forever alone!

RotaryLover > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS 03/16/2014 at 21:06

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Brofist

Arben72 > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:08

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Maintenance Isn't that bad on the base model Germans, bmw pays for your maintenance. You guys get the 328d xdrive, go look at it. It was a great car if it wasn't the steering feel (but that doesn't matter to you). The heated seats and heated steering wheel kicked in right away for those cold Canadian winters. Heater was warm in a minute. I put that car through hell for about 2,000 miles and it never gave up.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:08

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Ah, Okay. Than an ATS or CTS like others have recommended.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:09

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RotaryLover > bobkustofawitshz 03/16/2014 at 21:11

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Dat 300. Damn, I'll suggest it along with the cts.

Ryanator122 > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:13

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Maybe you could swing the Mercury or Lincoln version of the Fusion? I loved the way it drove

RotaryLover > Ryanator122 03/16/2014 at 21:16

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Isn't Mercury dead? There's a Lincoln version of the new Fusion?

theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:18

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"The Mazda 3...is not mine"

Wow.. Sorry man, I totally dropped the ball on that one. I thought it was yours.

Ryanator122 > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:23

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I think I drove one... Although it may have been the Taurus one. I don't see why they wouldn't make one...

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:25

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Hopefully not forever alone we are all rooting for you

RotaryLover > theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil 03/16/2014 at 21:29

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The one on the pic is not mine. The Mazda 3 I currently own is not mine neither...it's payed by my father. I tried to find the rims through google but with no luck. Maybe someone on oppo might know.

Mike_Smith > jkm7680 03/16/2014 at 21:29

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I had a Passat for 11+ years (still have it actually, about to send to my dad in Florida) and maintenance was not at all a pain in the ass.

RotaryLover > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic 03/16/2014 at 21:31

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Well...huh...thanks...damn...the pressure....

naallday > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:36

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Reliable is all I read

naallday > naallday 03/16/2014 at 21:37

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Or this. I'm a biased honda lover though.

RotaryLover > naallday 03/16/2014 at 21:38

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Interesting. I'll suggest this!

naallday > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 21:43

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Please do! I've driven many. Love them. 13-14' tsx.

signintokinjalol > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 22:11

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Don't do it.

RotaryLover > signintokinjalol 03/16/2014 at 22:19

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Better do it than not doing it and regret it all my life. But yeah...2h trip is no fun. Scratch that, long distance relationship ain't fun at all.

Maxima Speed > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 22:20

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How about a Chrysler 200 with all the extra options? fully loaded they look pretty nice.

puddler > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 22:38

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yea, didn't mention enough details...but, layers. & ural's are 2wd w/sidecar.

signintokinjalol > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 22:41

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You're young, you won't regret a relationship in 20 years. You'll be a different person.

Long distance relationships turn you into a husk if you fall in love with a person. When you're in love with someone, they have to be near by. Once the attraction goes and you don't have that "attract", you'll start doubting things. Does she love me? Is she thinking about me? Is she cheating on me cause i'm so far?

Save your money, go live a little. Not only are long distance relationships hard, but they're expensive. Since you're far away, you'll want to make it up by doing expensive activities and etc. You have a lot to learn about your self, don't take any relationship seriously until you are 100%sure of your self....and then some.

Take it from someone who knows.

RotaryLover > Maxima Speed 03/16/2014 at 22:49

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No way in hell. He said. lol

RotaryLover > puddler 03/16/2014 at 22:53

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I was looking for a joke about this...and I stumble on awesomeness.

Theres a bunch of people driving sidecars in winter!!

RotaryLover > signintokinjalol 03/16/2014 at 22:55

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Looks like i'll continue to be alone for the moment as planned.

signintokinjalol > RotaryLover 03/16/2014 at 23:04

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Haha, i didn't mean to ruin or touch anything.

I just gave you warnings, that's all.

Do as you wish, i might be wrong.

Trevor Mohr > RotaryLover 03/17/2014 at 00:22

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Wait, why? Is it the new one? Honestly I recommend trying it at least.

jkm7680 > Mike_Smith 03/17/2014 at 07:27

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For my A4, the thing that has gotten me is repairs that were not under warranty, I don't bring my car to the dealership for maintenance anymore, It saves me a couple grand every year it seems.

Mike_Smith > jkm7680 03/17/2014 at 11:39

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Oh sure, I stopped going to the dealer once it was off warranty, but I still followed the maintenance schedule. Only ever had four significant repairs apart from normal wear: bad OXS (replaced under warranty), premature rear rotor wear at 16K (which VW did not replace under warranty - was a bit annoyed about that), belly pan replaced after I ran over something on a dark night that tore it off, and replaced valve cover gaskets. Oh, and the overhead light bulb receptacle developed an intermittent connection. Other than that, just brake pads, tires, fluid changes, and other normal scheduled maintenance.

jkm7680 > Mike_Smith 03/17/2014 at 11:42

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Same, the previous owner did not take care of my car. It needed a new clutch, and something to do with over consuming oil.

DPillar > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 03/17/2014 at 16:50

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Great suggestion, really wish he'd give it a try, FWD or AWD for snow while being handsome and European sourced, heck you can even convert it to an Opel in about 3hrs with this kit http://www.oeminsigniaparts.com/ Now that's exclusive!

Maxima Speed > RotaryLover 03/17/2014 at 17:10

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kinda particular aint he? :P

RotaryLover > signintokinjalol 03/17/2014 at 18:43

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Well I didn't plan to have that kind of relationship...it never works most of the time and I had a bunch of exemples(and I really mean A BUNCH!). But I wanted to try it for the kick of it. We never know.

RotaryLover > Trevor Mohr 03/17/2014 at 18:45

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He hates the lines of the old model and hates vw period because of a crash he had in his youth when he had a bug.

RotaryLover > Maxima Speed 03/17/2014 at 18:54

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Somewhat. That was more me than him tho hahahahaha.

RotaryLover > Tom McParland 03/17/2014 at 19:00

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The down payement would be both the Mazda 3 2010 and the Altima 2008. Unless...it's not considered as a down payement.